47 Elizabeth II, A.D. 1998, Canada

Journals of the Senate

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Issue 84

Wednesday, October 21, 1998
1:30 p.m.

The Honourable Gildas L. Molgat, Speaker

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The Members convened were:

The Honourable Senators

Adams, Andreychuk, Atkins, Bacon, Balfour, Beaudoin, Berntson, Bolduc, Bosa, Bryden, Buchanan, Butts, Carney, Carstairs, Chalifoux, Cochrane, Comeau, Cook, Cools, Corbin, DeWare, Di Nino, Doody, Eyton, Ferretti Barth, Fitzpatrick, Fraser, Gauthier, Ghitter, Gill, Grafstein, Graham, Grimard, Gustafson, Hays, Johnson, Johnstone, Joyal, Kelly, Keon, Kinsella, Kroft, Lavoie-Roux, Lawson, LeBreton, Lewis, Losier-Cool, Lucier, Lynch-Staunton, Maheu, Mahovlich, Maloney, Mercier, Milne, Molgat, Moore, Murray, Nolin, Pearson, Pépin, Phillips, Pitfield, Poulin (Charette), Poy, Prud'homme, Rivest, Robertson, Robichaud , (L'Acadie-Acadia), Robichaud , (Saint-Louis-de-Kent), Roche, Rossiter, Ruck, St. Germain, Simard, Sparrow, Spivak, Stewart, Stollery, Taylor, Whelan, Wilson

The Members in attendance to business were:

The Honourable Senators

Adams, Andreychuk, Atkins, *Austin, Bacon, Balfour, Beaudoin, Berntson, Bolduc, Bosa, Bryden, Buchanan, Butts, *Callbeck, Carney, Carstairs, Chalifoux, Cochrane, Comeau, Cook, Cools, Corbin, DeWare, Di Nino, Doody, Eyton, *Fairbairn, Ferretti Barth, Fitzpatrick, *Forrestall, Fraser, Gauthier, Ghitter, Gill, Grafstein, Graham, Grimard, Gustafson, Hays, *Hervieux-Payette, Johnson, Johnstone, Joyal, *Kelleher, Kelly, *Kenny, Keon, Kinsella, *Kirby, Kroft, Lavoie-Roux, Lawson, LeBreton, Lewis, Losier-Cool, Lucier, Lynch-Staunton, Maheu, Mahovlich, Maloney, Mercier, Milne, Molgat, Moore, Murray, Nolin, *Oliver, Pearson, Pépin, Phillips, Pitfield, Poulin (Charette), Poy, Prud'homme, Rivest, Robertson, Robichaud , (L'Acadie-Acadia), Robichaud , (Saint-Louis-de-Kent), Roche, *Rompkey, Rossiter, Ruck, St. Germain, Simard, Sparrow, Spivak, Stewart, Stollery, Taylor, *Tkachuk, Whelan, Wilson

PRAYERS

SENATORS' STATEMENTS

Some Honourable Senators made statements.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Reports from Inter-Parliamentary Delegations

The Honourable Senator Grafstein tabled the following:

Report of the Canadian Delegation of the Canada-Europe Parliamentary Association on its participation at the Seventh Annual Session of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Organization on Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE), held in Copenhagen, Denmark, from July 7 to 10, 1998. -Sessional Paper No. 1/36-863.

Notices of Motions

With leave of the Senate, The Honourable Senator Stewart moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Poy:

That notwithstanding the Order of the Senate adopted on October 28, 1997, the Standing Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs, which was authorised to examine and report on the growing importance of the Asia Pacific region for Canada, be empowered to table its final report no later than November 25, 1998; and

That the Committee be permitted, notwithstanding usual practices, to deposit its report with the Clerk of the Senate, if the Senate is not then sitting; and that the report be deemed to have been tabled in the Chamber.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

ANSWERS TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Rule 25(2), the Honourable Senator Carstairs tabled the following:

Reply to Question No. 70, dated October 21, 1997, appearing on the Order Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Phillips, respecting entertainment costs at 24 Sussex Drive. -Sessional Paper No. 1/36-864S.

Reply to Question No. 126, dated June 15, 1998, appearing on the Order Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Forrestall, respecting Shearwater Development Corporation. -Sessional Paper No. 1/36-865S.

Reply to Question No. 131, dated June 15, 1998, appearing on the Order Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Forrestall, respecting the transfer of Canadian-held 155mm calibre ammunition.-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-866S.

Reply to Question No. 134, dated June 18, 1998, appearing on the Order Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Bryden, respecting entertainment costs at 24 Sussex Drive.-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-867S.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

GOVERNMENT BUSINESS

Bills

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting. Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Bryden, seconded by the Honourable Senator Stewart, for the second reading of Bill C-3, An Act respecting DNA identification and to make consequential amendments to the Criminal Code and other Acts.

After debate, The Honourable Senator Kinsella for the Honourable Senator Nolin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Ghitter, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted. Order No. 3 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

OTHER BUSINESS

Senate Public Bills

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Private Bills

Orders No. 1 and 2 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Reports of Committees

Orders No. 1 to 5 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Other

Orders No. 41 (inquiry), 87, 45, 1 (motions), 39, 35 and 15 (inquiries) were called and postponed until the next sitting. Order No. 27 (inquiry) was called and pursuant to Rule 27(3) was dropped from the Order Paper. Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Spivak calling the attention of the Senate to the differences between the proposed Multilateral Agreement on Investment and the NAFTA.

After debate, The Honourable Senator Di Nino for the Honourable Senator Eyton moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator DeWare, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted. Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Gigantès calling the attention of the Senate to the shameful way Canadians are treated by the procedures of the personal income tax system. He will suggest that the Senate propose corrective steps.

Debate concluded. Orders No. 34 and 37 (inquiries) were called and postponed until the next sitting.

REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 28(2):

Report of the Roosevelt Campobello International Park Commission, together with the auditors' report, for the year 1997, pursuant to the Roosevelt Campobello International Park Commission Act, S.C. 1964-65, c. 19, s. 7.-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-848.

Reports of the International Centre for Human Rights and Democratic Development required by the Access to Information Act and the Privacy Act for the period ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 72(2) and the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2). -Sessional Paper No. 1/36-849.

Reports of Revenue Canada required by the Access to Information Act and the Privacy Act for the period ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 72(2) and the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-850.

Reports of the Transportation Safety Board of Canada required by the Access to Information Act and the Privacy Act for the period ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 72(2) and the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-851.

Report (Part I, Corporations) for the year 1996, pursuant to the Corporations and Labour Unions Returns Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. C-43, sbs. 22(1).-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-852.

Report of the Canada Foundation for Innovation, together with the auditors' report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on February 18, 1997, R.S.C. 1997, c. 26, s. 29(3).-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-853.

Report of the Business Development Bank of Canada on the administration of the Alternative Fuels Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Alternative Fuels Act, S.C. 1995, c. 20, s. 8.-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-854.

Report of the Standards Council of Canada on the administration of the Alternative Fuels Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Alternative Fuels Act, S.C. 1995, c. 20, s. 8.-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-855.

Report of the Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. N-21, s. 18.-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-856.

Report of the Copyright Board for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Act to amend the Copyright Act and to amend other Acts in consequence thereof, R.S.C. 1985, c. 10 (4th Supp.), s. 12.-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-857.

Reports of the National Research Council required by the Access to Information Act and the Privacy Act for the period ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 72(2) and the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-858.

Reports of the Standards Council of Canada required by the Access to Information Act and the Privacy Act for the period ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 72(2) and the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-859.

Reports of the Department of the Environment required by the Access to Information Act and the Privacy Act for the period ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 72(2) and the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-860.

Report of the Operations under the Fisheries Development Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Fisheries Development Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-21, s. 10. -Sessional Paper No. 1/36-861.

Report of the President of the Treasury Board on Official Languages in Federal Institutions for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Official Languages Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. 31 (4th Supp.), s. 48.-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-862.

ADJOURNMENT

The Honourable Senator Carstairs moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C. (L'Acadie-Acadia):

That the Senate do now adjourn.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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